We ended yesterday’s post with:
My first installment of insight from K is advice designed to enable me to judge a person’s character. I should first observe how a person treats service people like drivers and waiters, even if they are not nice to him. Two, I should observe what the person says about people who are not present. Third, and I need to quote this because he put it so succinctly – “money or time, which is more important? Would you rather have the gift of company, or just a gift?”
Now, the first two things are just common sense things that I already do. I am all about observing behavior to determine what makes someone tick. But number three, this gives a girl pause. With number three, we not only observe, but we measure too. Number three is all about the scientific method, all about believing in that which is observable and measurable.
Women are socialized to value the showering of gifts. We learn this from other women – our mothers, sisters, friends – and we start doing it basically from the moment we start dating. It becomes important to us because it is important to them; that is to say, I don’t think we’re born this way, I think we’re socialized this way. Everyone is judged by the value of the gifts. We judge the man by the gifts he gives us for our birthdays, Valentine’s Day, or “just because”. We judge each other by how good the gifts from men are. Remember the girls in HS who wore ankle bracelets on chains around their necks? Remember how much the other girls envied them? There were also girls who had “his ring” on a chain around their necks (I was one of those briefly, but not in high school). Or the girls who wore the guy’s letter jacket, how about those? Oh, I have another good one, from later in life – the parade of flowers in the office on Valentine’s Day. The women who don’t get any are envious and curse the sight of all those 1-800-FLOWERS vans parked outside the building.
So, the jewelry, the flowers, the branding of her with his letterman jacket – these are all outward signs of his esteem for her, which in turn contributes to her own self-esteem. It also elevates her status among her peers, which is another boost to her self-esteem. Later on it’s engagement rings, cars, houses, vacations… things, always things.
You know what, I think this is a throwback to the times of dowries. A dowry is money, goods/property that a woman’s father would provide so she could establish her marriage household with her new husband. The more “stuff” that was associated with her, the more valuable it was to marry her. See, it wasn’t the woman herself that was valued – it was the stuff. No stuff, no value!
In some cultures, there was even a tradition of the groom settling a monetary gift on the bride the morning after the wedding night. This gift would help to ensure her future should something happen to him, and it was also an indication that she’d proven satisfactory and that he intended to keep her.
A woman’s worth to herself and to others has probably been all tied up in the tangible, the material, basically since the invention of patriarchy. Some man – either her lover or her father – was always either giving or receiving STUFF in connection with her. To this day,we women still seem to be measuring ourselves and each other by the baubles he brings. I want to make it clear that, although I think without a doubt that patriarchy was initially responsible for this, it’s we women today in 2009 that are perpetuating it, foisting it upon ourselves and each other. We need to cut this shit out, and start walking the talk of self-worth.
For many women, having a man – ANY man – is the ultimate proof of their own worth. It’s proof to themselves as well as to the world at large. On a certain level, I get how seductive this is. I’ve been single a long time, and I know that there have been situations whereby my lack of a man – ANY man – has made me seem “less than” in the eyes of those around me. It’s worth so much to some women, they have actually expressed sympathy for my “plight”. Some of those times, I’ve wished fleetingly that I had a man – ANY man – to make me seem “more than” in their eyes, to wipe that smug, pseudo-sympathetic look off their faces. I get over this feeling pretty quickly. It gets replaced with the desire to kick their asses for making me feel that way – even fleetingly.
Well, it IS lonely sometimes. But you know, lonliness is not THEIR reason for not wanting to be manless. Many women, some of the very ones who have pitied me – these women are sometimes the ones that see a man as a means to an end, not as the end itself. They want the THINGS, the candy and flowers and jewelry, so they can feel like they are worth something, and they believe this is the ONLY way they can feel like they are worth something. Stuff, things – these are tangible proof of his esteem for her, and therefore of her worth.
I make a good living and I can buy STUFF for myself. Those who have known me for a while know that this is true – I deny myself basically nothing. Veni, Vidi, Visa
I don’t need a man to give me things. His gifts will, of course, make me feel good, but my self-worth comes from different places. It comes from accomplishments. It comes from going back to school and getting another degree while in my 40s, and from having a successful career on Wall Street. It grew from all those operas I memorized and performed in foreign languages, and all the applause and praise that resulted. My self-esteem comes from knowing that my friends and family think the world of me, and from knowing when I’ve done the right thing.
Now mind you, I would not turn down the gifts; I would appreciate him a lot for gifting me with them, but really, that’s not what I would need him for. ‘Way back then, when I was a teenager, and even into my thirties – yes, I wanted the ankle bracelet and the esteem that went with it. But now? Yeah, it’s the gift of company. Here and now, in 2009, that’s what I want. And it can’t be just ANY man, either – but I think this is long enough, and that’s a post for another day.
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K brings up some interesting points, and I think you are right about the connections you made with gift giving/receiving to the old days.
I’m glad I’m different. Gift receiving has never (and still doesn’t) matter to me. I could care less what I have, what I receive or who gives it to me. I’m the kind of person who likes to give gifts. I love to make others feel good although you are right, gifts should not be associated with self-worth and too often they are.
And I don’t need a man to feel self-worth. Thank God. I guess I wouldn’t look upon you with pity for being alone. It’s not such a bad choice. In fact, I’m kind of difficult and crabby at times. I’d probably be better off alone, I like to do my own thing. Relationships for me stemmed out of my burning desire to have children. It’s always been about the babies which is why my first marriage failed because the children were never and are not important to him.
You are so right, it is about the company. I can’t wait for the “any man” installment. I’m really enjoying reading your thoughts and insights.
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Gayle
27 Jun 09 at 1:50 pm
I can’t wait for my “any man” installment either… it doesn’t exist yet, not even as a twinkle in my eye! LOL
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Erin
27 Jun 09 at 5:48 pm
Low self esteem in more than just pitiable, it can be devastating. I have known my share of women who so needed ‘any man’ that they literally pimped their young daughters in order to keep mama’s boyfriend around the house. I have seen women give character testimony in favor of men who raped their children. I know it’s an extreme, but it is a slippery slope from ‘needing’ flowers or jewelry to that ugly shift of priorities that can bring a whole family down. Loving a man for what wealth he can give us is often the opposite of loving him for his character. The bottom line is always that if the man isn’t worth it, the gifts aren’t worth it either.
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gail
27 Jun 09 at 8:40 pm
yep-there’s a man in my house.I don’t NEED him here;But I WANT him here.There is a world of difference between need and want.
yep-he is usually a true pain in the ass,a slob,a pack-rat,tending towards lazy,has to have hot sauce or ketchup on everything he eats,……I could go on and on.But he is kinda neat to have around.
But someday,I’d like to have a house with light colored furniture.
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ChrisC
28 Jun 09 at 8:15 am
Brilliant blog! I am new here, but have so enjoyed your topics. I have been single for 9 years, after a 20 year marriage. Your friend K is a genius. In all my singularity, and searching for Mr. Forever, I have never even thought to watch how he treats waiters and drivers as a relationship indicator! My last 3 year relationship was seemingly perfect in the beginning, but became unhealthy and ultimately died. He was demanding and critical of all waiters and expected every driver to drive according to his handbook. It becasme painful to be in the car with him. (And we live in Houston!) I cringed at both of these things about him, but allowed them and accepted them as his reaction to the stress of being a lawyer. Now, looking back, after reading your post, I can see clearly that even I had to serve him properly and according to his “ways.” I had to be the perfect driver to drive his way. As I said, the relationship died…..but K is right on as this being a primary indicator. Wow. How slow am I to figure this out! LOL!
I shall continue to read, and learn!
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RhondaJ
28 Jun 09 at 9:27 am
Oh yeah…I do SO agree about the gift-giving and self worth. But, I did read a book once about the Five Languages of Love…and one of the languages is gift-giving. If that is a person’s language and we cannot accept the gifts freely with happiness and love, then we are turning that person’s love away, and it hurts them when we do not accept openly. I did this without knowing. I did not want the nice things he gave me, and I would always tell him not to spend so much on me or would not let him take me shopping for this or that. I only wanted his time. Does this make sense? Eventually, he was gone from my life too. But I am ok about THAT for other reasons!
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RhondaJ
28 Jun 09 at 9:34 am
Rhonda, I’m happy to meet you and even happier to read your comments. We can only learn from one another
Here’s what I think about gifts. I think there’s a difference between accepting a gift and EXPECTING a gift, a specific gift, a gift by which you’re going to judge him, a gift by which your friends and family will judge him. See the difference? If it makes him happy to give, to know that he made you smile with his gift, then there can’t be anything wrong with that. But I think K’s point was if you get tangible, physical things but you don’t get HIM, that’s a problem. That’s when the gifts become meaningless. The most precious gift is the gift of time spent, shared experiences that could be as mundane as making dinner or just chillaxin’ on the sofa together. These are the things that stand out like beacons in my own mind, not the gifts.
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Erin
28 Jun 09 at 10:00 am